Oh to be a director in the Marvel universe!
Peyton Reed has that pleasure and burden of sorts, as he surely knows (and talks about in our interview) the importance of keeping secrets in this business. Though we had already seen the film, Peyton Reed was careful with his words, at times letting his mannerisms do more of the talking. He talks about all things in this interview, including that post-credit scene that everyone is buzzing about in Ant-Man and The Wasp!
No worries, no spoilers, but Peyton Reed does talk about the future of Marvel, Kevin Feige’s vision for that future, and a bit on how this movie fits into Infinity War and Avengers 4.
(Disney, Marvel Studios, Freeform & Disney Junior invited me to California on an all-expenses paid trip, in exchange for our coverage of events, including this Peyton Reed: Ant-Man and The Wasp Interview. As always, all opinions are my own.)
Peyton Reed Ant-Man and The Wasp Interview
The Realms Out There
One thing I’ve really been interested in, especially after what happened at the end of Avengers: Infinity War, is discovering more about the dimensions or realms that Marvel has created.
You learned a bit through Doctor Strange. You discovered more with Ant-Man. And then there was the confusion and gasp-worthy moments in Avengers: Infinity War. It all has me questioning the realms we’ve been introduced to.
Peyton Reed had the chance to explore this more while directing Ant-Man and The Wasp. He mentioned, “I think there was a concerted effort in the first Ant-Man and in Doctor Strange to kind of start embracing that psychedelic aspect of the Marvel Comics, which is always part of the Marvel Comics since the ’60s, but had not really been explored in the MCU. And there are different dimensions, and hopefully they’re all gonna sort of serve different purposes in the future.”
He continued, “With regards to our movie, it was something where we were trying to figure out what we were gonna show and how we were gonna deal with the plots around it. We had to key off what we saw in the first movie, but we wanted to show the audience a little more.”
You will get to see more of what we call the Quantum Realm in Ant-Man and The Wasp, and it’s exciting to see what Peyton Reed has done.
Reed shared with us, “It was really fun to sort of design what that could look like dramatically, how it would work, but then it also had to fit into the rest of our movie which is, compared to some of the other Marvel movies, a little more grounded.”
He added, “It takes place in our world not in Outer Space or Asgard or something like that. So it had to sort of have a reality to it too, so it was a huge challenge to sort of start to visualize the concept around it but really, really fun.”
Will Cassie Grow up to be a Super Hero?
There’s just something special about the father/daughter relationship in Ant-Man and The Wasp, and I think you’ll be even more impressed this time around.
When it comes to Scott Lang and his daughter Cassie, many people who are familiar with the comic books know that she grows up to become a super hero in her own right.
Peyton Reed talked about that a bit.
He said, “I think that everybody is aware from the first Ant-man and now in the Ant-man and The Wasp, who Cassie Lange is in the comics and that she does become a hero. And so I think we wanted to definitely start laying some groundwork for that possibility. I don’t know what specific plans are but I really liked the idea.”
He want on to talk about working with Abby Fortson, saying, “It’s fun to work with Abby three years later now. And I always love in movies when you see particularly a little kid (and you see it there), ‘what was she 6 in the first movie?’ and 9 now, or 7, 10, and see how she has sort of grown. And I like the idea that you have these glimpses where she goes toe to toe with Agent Wu. And then she covers for her Dad and she’s got that side of Scott, you know, that’s a little mischievous and everything, but she’s a tough kid.”
Reed went on, “And I really love the idea of doing that intimate scene where she’s talking about maybe needing a partner and in her mind, it’s her and him having to say, ‘of course you could do it, but I’d be a terrible father if I allowed you to do it.’ I think that’s one of the things that I liked the most in the movie is the evolution of the Scott/Cassie relationship. It helps that Abby is so good. She’s such a really focused young actor, you and it’s sort of rare.”
From all accounts, Paul Rudd and Abby Fortson make a great team onscreen and off.
Peyton Reed would be the first to tell you about their chemistry as a father/daughter duo and how Paul is able to relax her in this nice dynamic.
Music – From Morrissey to David Cassidy
I found myself tapping my foot with the music in this film, something I would have expected from Guardians of the Galaxy, but was a great surprise here.
Oh yes, you will too when you hear David Cassidy and the Partridge Family!
You will also find music and references from Morrissey in Ant-Man and The Wasp and that was intentional.
Why? Well, Director Peyton Reed played drums in a Morrissey/Smiths cover band called “Louder Than Bombs” which played a few shows in Los Angeles just for fun.
On Spoilers in General…
Look a the photo above. His hands say it all. But really, Peyton Reed did talk, more than I thought he would.
He, like Michael Douglas, seemed on guard! Reed said, “I have to be so careful. Wasp is gonna shoot me in the neck, with a gun absolutely. I don’t know if it’s a real threat, but to me, the whole idea of the spoilers
thing- there are certain things that you want to keep secret and there’s an exhilaration as an audience to experience something. It’s so rare now to see a movie that you know nothing about. It’s kind of a lost art.”
I agree. Hearing audiences gasp in quiet of a theater is pretty magical. It’s rare for sure, and it’s something that Marvel brings about so well.
Reed talked about spoilers with him, noting, “But even as a kid, like I had a love/hate relationship. When The Empire Strikes Back came out, the novelization came out two weeks before the movie opened and I couldn’t wait, and I read the novelization and I learned the revelation about Darth Vader. But it didn’t really spoil my enjoyment of actually two weeks later seeing the movie.”
Photo by Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images for Disney
Kevin Feige and the Larger Marvel Picture
Don’t you wish you were in meetings with Kevin Feige?
Lucky Peyton Reed has access, but I wonder just how much he knows about the big picture.
He did share a bit…
Reed said, “I imagine there are certain things I think that are predetermined that we’ve all talked about. And then there are things that we’ve talked about, that could possibly happen or wouldn’t it be cool if.”
But this is the sentence that gets me thinking. Reed said, “And you know, I think one of the fun things about the Marvel Universe is I think Kevin has a larger plan but that plan is extremely fluid. And people always ask ‘what did you have to do in this move to pay off the other thing,’ and his general philosophy at least with the Ant-man movies has been make them as stand alone as possible and anything you guys decide to do, whoever the Directors are in the next movie, they’re gonna have to deal with the ramifications, which is kind of nice.”
As a director, I think that has to be the most satisfying thing, knowing that Kevin Feige has your back with decisions you and the writers make. He added, “There’s a fluidity and I think it’s the idea of whatever makes for the best character arcs and the most interesting and maybe surprising thing, wins.”
Ant-Man and The Wasp’s Future
Reed went on, “I think it is sort of leaving things open ended and I know things that I want to do with those characters and stories that I want to tell and how we progress the characters. I mean obviously, in this movie it excited me as we talked about before, putting Wasp at center stage and really telling that story. And now this whole movie is really about are they gonna be. Does she need him as a partner? Are they gonna be able to work as a partnership? I feel like this movie really answers that question. But then it’s like well, what next? And the possibilities are really endless.”
That is so exciting!
Ant-Man and The Wasp Tie-in to Avengers 4
You know that epic post-credit scene we’ve all been warning you to wait and see when Ant-Man and The Wasp ends? Here’s what Peyton Reed has to say about the movie versus the post-credit scene…“Separate them in your mind.”
He added, “It was not completely planned in the beginning. We knew we were gonna have to deal with that thing at some point in some way. Actually, we weren’t sure at the beginning. We knew that our movie was gonna take place, not only as a sequel to Ant-Man but also to Civil War because we couldn’t ignore what Scott Lange did in that movie. But we weren’t always sure how we were gonna fit into the larger timeline with regards to Infinity War. Somewhere during the process, this idea occurred to us of like ‘Oh, well we could do something like that.”
And they did!
And one last thought from Reed on the subject, “And it seemed to work for us tonally, and sort of allows us to do our very stand alone movie but then, have it fit into the larger Marvel happenings.
Thank you Disney and Marvel for the opportunity of this Peyton Reed Ant-Man and The Wasp interview – so memorable!
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